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Re: Stats

Post by kenjiac » Wed May 22, 2013 5:21 pm

I gotta say that there are players that could park 9 by going huge hyzer over the top. Not many but not no one. And we can putt with the disc touching our stomach or chest. Lol :obscene-buttsway:
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Post by Morgan » Wed May 22, 2013 6:10 pm

Some pros have said to me that they can't park 9 (Scott Howard, Eric McCabe, Craig Cutler) because they want to 2 it. Eric actually said I need to cut trees so he can do a sky hyzer over the dogleg and park it. I think I'll just call it a par 4 so all the 3's are birdies. I would have to cut bookoo trees to make it parkable for 2. So far the only 2's I've ever seen on that hole have been from fairway aces (100 foot putts).

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Re: Stats

Post by Morgan » Fri May 24, 2013 6:47 am

The definition of a par 3 is it takes 1 throw to reach the green and 2 putts.
The definition of a par 4 is it takes 2 throws to reach the green and 2 putts.
The definition of a par 5 is it takes 3 throws to reach the green and 2 putts.

So 9 is a par 4.

So is 14, can you reach the green in 1 on 14? Didn't think so.

15 is iffy as to what constitutes the green. The short tunnel in the woods? Or just the far portion of it. If the far portion of it is the green, it takes 3 shots to reach there. Takes two shots just to get to the beginning of it. So, 15 is a par 5, as the stats show.

Hyzer Creek is officially par 65 now.

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Re: Stats

Post by timdef » Fri May 24, 2013 7:22 am

bam!

wow

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Post by timdef » Sat May 25, 2013 8:59 pm

so yesterday I got in the front-9, against the wishes of the misses, but I managed a drop-in birdie (er, 3) on the "new" 9 8-)

it occurred to me after I finished the round that it strikes me as odd 9 is a 4-par while 4 is a 3-par... that said, i know i'm pretty happy with myself when/if I 3 either one of them.

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Re: Stats

Post by Morgan » Sun May 26, 2013 6:32 am

The stats show 4 to be a par 3 in spite of the fact that nobody 2's it. Tim J got a 2 once (on his way to a course record 21 for the front 9).

I'm not going to change the pars. No way hole 9 is a par 4. Many more people get 3 than 4 so how can it be par 4 if more people get 3. Don't care what the average is. Hole 15 gets more 4's than 5's so it's a par 4.

Course pro par is 63, as it was before. 9 is a par 3, and 15 is a 4.

Zoom, bam.

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Re: Stats

Post by Morgan » Fri May 02, 2014 6:50 am

http://www.hyzercreek.com/stats.htm

Stats are up for April Showers 9. Just click the above and scroll down to the bottom.

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Post by AndrewT » Fri May 02, 2014 9:31 am

So it sounds like my deuce birdie on hole #4 in the second round of April Showers 2014 was a rarity. It's not reflected in the statistics chart because I am not currently >=900 rated (I'm new to PDGA and have only one tournament recourded). Birdie was witnessed by Harry L., Aaron H. & Corey D. in my foursome. Sorry to 'toot my own horn' but seems like a worthwhile achievement! 8-) - AndrewT

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Re: Stats

Post by timdef » Fri May 02, 2014 9:33 am

Morgan wrote:Course pro par is 63, as it was before. 9 is a par 3, and 15 is a 4.


its starting to get hard to keep track of!

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Re: Stats

Post by Morgan » Fri May 02, 2014 7:37 pm

timdef wrote:
Morgan wrote:Course pro par is 63, as it was before. 9 is a par 3, and 15 is a 4.


its starting to get hard to keep track of!


It looks like hole 9 is really a par 3. The stats don't support a par 4 status. More people 3 it than 4 it.

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Re: Stats

Post by timdef » Fri May 02, 2014 8:10 pm

Morgan wrote:
It looks like hole 9 is really a par 3. The stats don't support a par 4 status. More people 3 it than 4 it.


I agree with it and the stats are good back up! (which i appreciate you sharing with everyone as you always have)

it should get engraved in stone somewhere so it doesn't change again :lol:

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Re: Stats

Post by Morgan » Sat May 03, 2014 1:09 pm

39 3's
22 4's
7 5's
2 6's

Even if you add all the 4's 5's and 6's you get 31 which is less than all the 3's

If you add all the strokes over 3 you get 22 + 7 x 2 + 2 x 3 = 42 which is more than 39, but if it were really a par 4 there would be a lot more 4's than 3's

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Re: Stats

Post by Morgan » Sun May 18, 2014 8:42 am

Since it turns out hole 9 is not a true par 4, I need to make it either a true par 4, or a regular par 3 that people can get 2's on. Now, the only way to get a 2 is with a 100 foot putt. That's not a normal par 3.

Making it a true par 4 would require moving the tee pad, which ain't happening, or moving the pin somewhere. I like where the pin is, it's been there for 13 years I'm sort of fond of it.

So, to make it a par 3, that people can 2, is the plan.

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Re: Stats

Post by throwfromthewoods12 » Sun May 18, 2014 9:23 am

Have you considered clearing out the area down the fairway a bit, off to the right before you cross the creek? Drop a teepad back there 100' (roughly parallel to 8's basket but down the hill) and you've got a multiple angle (anny-flick, tight hyzer, maybe even a thumber shot or an s-shot) hole still around the 300' mark. It eliminates the hyzer risk of the current teepad. It also takes out having to walk back to 9s tee. You just have a path from the 8 basket down to the tee. You can still put the fence up just in case some cannon arm blasts it through the gap and down the hill. But I imagine that would happen far less than people getting near the tee box now. The pin gets to stay where it is, and it's still a tight, challenging fairway that rewards a good drive with a makeable birdie putt.

Just my initial thoughts. I'm not as familiar with the terrain as you. So it may not be a feasible option at all.

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Re: Stats

Post by kenjiac » Sun May 18, 2014 9:42 am

par 3s don't have to reachable with a drive. Hole 9 is good.
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Re: Stats

Post by Cypress Will » Mon May 19, 2014 8:25 pm

Yeah I dig hole 9 too! Its a hole that you need to get a 3 on if you're gonna stay in contention. That being said if you opened up the top a little bit for a big spikehyzer route that would be pretty sick!

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Re: Stats

Post by Morgan » Thu May 22, 2014 12:10 am

Nah. No sky hyzers. Just decreased the dogleg by ridding the world of excess trees. Took about 20 big ones out. Anybody need firewood?

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Re: Stats

Post by Greg » Thu May 22, 2014 8:40 am

I'll drive my pickup to the Birdie Bash and grab some firewood. Thanks for everything!

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Re: Stats

Post by shad » Thu May 22, 2014 8:43 am

I heard a rumor someone was planning on sasquatch cosplay in your woods during some event Morgan. Did you hear this?

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Re: Stats

Post by Morgan » Thu May 22, 2014 1:31 pm

Don't know what that is

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Re: Stats

Post by Morgan » Sun May 25, 2014 6:51 pm

It's not looking good for that big hemlock tree. I played hole 9 today and it plays like it did before, with that tree in the way. The gap to the left of the tree is too small. You can hit it, but not with the power needed to park the basket. To the right of the tree is old hole 9, same as it ever was.

Tree needs to go.

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